Tuesday, January 10, 2017

A debate with the Jews !


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I will mention a debate that occurred between me and some jews. I said to one of them – after he had denied the Prophethood of the Prophet (saws), ‘Your denial of his Prophethood entails slandering the Lord of the universe, belittling Him, and attributing to Him the worst of all blemishes. Before the discussion with you was about the Messenger and now it is about the Lord being free of all imperfections.’ 

He said, ‘How can you say such?’ 

So I said to him, ‘Clarifying such is my responsibility, so listen now. You claim that he was not a Messenger rather he was a conqueror king who conquered the people by his sword until they yielded to him. And he spent twenty three years lying against Allah and saying, ‘I was revealed to,’ and he was not revealed to. ‘He commanded me,’ and He did not command him. ‘He forbade me,’ and He did not forbid him. ‘Allah said such and such,’ and He did not say such. ‘He made such and such Halaal, such and such Haraam, such and such Waajib, and such and such Makruh,’ and He did not make any of such Halaal nor Haraam nor Waajib, rather he did these things on his own by lying and fabricating things against Allah, His Prophets, and His angels.” 

“Thereafter he spent twenty three years apathetically killing His slaves, spilling their blood, taking their wealth, enslaving their women and children, while they had no sin save rejection of and opposition to him, and throughout all this he says, ‘Allah ordered me with this,’ and Allah did not order him.” “And in addition to this, he endeavors to change the Deen of the Messengers, abrogate their laws, and undue their traditions. This is his condition in your view. So either the Lord knows about this, hears of it and his condition, sees and witnesses him, or not. So if you claim that all this is away from Allah, and He did not know of it, then you have slandered the Lord and attributed extreme ignorance to Him, since He did not hear of this great event, nor know of it, nor see it. And if you claim that rather this occurred with His knowledge, awareness, and under His vision, you will be asked if He was able to change such, hold him back, and prevent him, or not. If you say that He was incapable of such, you have attributed weakness to Him and negated His Ruboobiyyah, thereby this human along with his followers were more capable of achieving their desires. And if you say that rather He was capable but He consolidated him, supported him, gave him mastery over the creation, and did not support His Awliya and the followers of His Messengers, then you have attributed to Him the worst of foolishness, oppression, and lack of wisdom. That would be the case if He merely allowed him to do what he did. So what if He Himself was his support, the answerer of his supplications, the destroyer of those opposing and contradicting him, the confirmer of his claim with many forms of sanction, and the revealer of signs upon his hands – signs that if the people of the earth were all to gather and work together, they would not be able to produce just one of such signs and would fail in doing so. And at every moment He creates for him causes of victory, consolidation, ascension, and abundance of followers, in a manner that is abnormal?”

“Therefore it becomes clear that the one who denies him to be a Messenger and Prophet has indeed cursed Allah, slandered Him, and attributed ignorance, weakness, and foolishness to Him.” I then said to him, ‘This is not contradicted by the oppressive kings that Allah granted with consolidation upon the earth for a period of time and then He destroyed their existence, annihilated their traditions, and erased their traces and tyranny, for they had not practiced any of this, nor were they aided and supported. Nor did signs appear at their hands. Nor did the Lord confirm them with His consent, actions, or speech. Rather their condition was like Pharaoh, Nimrod, and their likes – opposite of that of the Messenger. This is also not contradicted by the claimants of Prophethood from amongst the liars. Rather their condition is opposite of that of the Messenger (saws) from every angle. Instead, their condition was from the clearest of proofs confirming the truthfulness of the Messenger. It was from the wisdom of Allah that the likes of these came out to existence so that the condition of the liars became apparent and distinct from that of the truthful. Therefore, their appearance was from the clearest of proofs for the truthfulness of the Messengers and showed the difference between these liars and the Messengers, because things become clear when their opposites appear. And the good of something is shown by its opposite. Thus, awareness of the doubts used to argue falsehood directs one to the truth and its proofs.” 

He then said, ‘I seek refuge with Allah. We do not say he is an oppressive king. Rather he is a noble Prophet. Whoever follows him is from the blissful…” 

[By al-‘Allamah Ibnul Qayyim al-Jawziyyah - At Tibyaan fī Aqsam al-Qur’aan: 180-182]

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